|  | 
Select newsletter in right column
Newsletter 152
 14/10/17
 JV's Response To Letter From Elayna KinleyHello Friends 
 
I have 
						looked on the Tiger Canyons site, and have been unable 
						to find a current list of tigers, let alone an 
						up-to-date family tree for the tigers. For instance, the 
						father of Panna's cubs, Khumba. Where did he come from? 
						Is he a tiger that is completely unrelated to the Panna, 
						or is he related to her? There should be no reason why 
						the only available data on the tigers, other than 
						mentions in newsletters, is over 4 years old. There's 
						nowhere to learn of births and deaths. And if I'm going 
						to get invested in an animal, I want to have regular 
						updates on them, without having to scour each and every 
						update on the off chance that tiger might be mentioned. 
						You have the time to write all those newsletters, but 
						you can't even do at least a yearly update on the major 
						events that have happened to each tiger? Why not have a 
						sub area where all the information for the tigers in 
						kept, with separate pages for each tiger. Have how old 
						the tiger is, their history, who their relatives are, 
						how big their territory is, how successful that are at 
						hunting, how shy they are, who their neighbors are and 
						if they're had any major fights with them. That way, if 
						someone saw a video about Panna, or Corbett, or so on 
						and wanted to know more about that tiger, they could 
						simply click on that tiger's page and find out all about 
						them. The idea that if I want to learn more about one of 
						the tigers I have to trawl through every single 
						newsletter ever released on their site for just a few 
						mentions of an individual tiger has completely turned me 
						off the idea of finding out anything about your tigers.  
You trumpet 
						that you're focused on conservation, but without a 
						diverse gene-pool, you're dooming the tigers that will 
						be born in the future to having short, illness stricken 
						lives. Just looking at the current state white tigers 
						are will demonstrate that. All white in captivity that 
						come from a 'pure' line originate from four individuals 
						which were intensively inbred so that they could ensure 
						that all cubs born would be white. And the tigers have 
						suffered from it. It has happened time and time again 
						that when a gene pool narrows too much, defects will 
						show up. Just look at pedigree dogs. There isn't a 
						single breed of pedigree dog that doesn't have health 
						issues. If you're really serious about conserving 
						tigers, rather than just using them as an attraction to 
						bring visitors to your park, then you must ensure that 
						inbreeding is prevented. And inbreeding doesn't just 
						mean matings between siblings. It also means matings 
						between cousins and second cousins.  
As tigers 
						aren't native to Africa, unlike with lions you can't 
						simply exchange animals with another park. And as your 
						tigers aren't part of the tiger studbook used by zoos, 
						you can't bring in an unrelated individual from a zoo or 
						park to boost genetic diversity. As that is the case, 
						why not get together with conservationists and 
						scientists to see if your tigers can be used as a case 
						study for artificial insemination of wild tigers? Not 
						only would this allow the genes of completely unrelated 
						males to be introduced into the park, but it would also 
						be a major contribution to saving tigers world wild. 
						Most wild populations of tigers are fragmented and 
						isolated, meaning that to prevent inbreeding animals 
						have to be moved from park to park. This has a lot of 
						risks attached. But if conservationists could simply 
						collect sperm from say a captive male and use it to 
						inseminate a wild female in an area with a low tiger 
						population, it could very well save the species.  
I hope that 
						you can read this email with an open mind and not see it 
						as me dumping on you, but in the spirit with which it is 
						intended, as constructive criticism. I do think the work 
						you're doing is important, but if even one aspect of it 
						isn't putting the tigers first, especially an aspect 
						that could so negatively affect them in the future, then 
						it needs a serious rethink. 
Elayna 
						Kinley JV Response:
							Hello Elayna   
Thank you for your Email.   
I agree with your first 
							paragraph. Our web site needs updating, we will do 
							this soon. Thank you for all the good ideas. 
“You 
							trumpet that you are focused-on conservation, but 
							without a diverse gene pool, you’re dooming the 
							tigers that will be born in the future to having 
							short, illness stricken lives”  
I wish I could play the trumpet, 
							I only play guitar & harmonica.  
Any tiger that is inbred, is vasectomised or sterilized. We have a cub 
							introduction system whereby we introduce cubs not 
							related into the litter & thereby keep our genetics 
							diverse. In the case of Khumba, when the cub 
							introduction failed (I could not find Shadow’s den), 
							he was hand raised.  
Khumba has fathered cubs with 
							Panna & Oria giving us excellent breeding stock. 
							Therefore, your comment about short, illness 
							stricken lives, is incorrect. Julie lived to 14, 
							Shadow is 12, Ron was 12, Seatao was 10, Sunderban is 
							9, Panna is 9. So, our tigers are living a long 
							time. We have had no illnesses, only a bite from a 
							Cape Cobra claimed Seatao’s life.  "Just 
							looking at the current state of white tigers I will 
							demonstrate that all white tigers in captivity that come 
							from a 'pure' line, originate from four individuals 
							which were intensively inbred so that they could 
							ensure that all cubs born would be white. And the 
							tigers have suffered from it. It has happened time 
							and time again that when a gene pool narrows too 
							much, defects will show up" 
All white tigers came from a 
							white male tiger called Mohan who traveled from 
							India to USA in the 50’s.    
We have bred two white tigers 
							from carriers Seatao & Julie. (A carrier has one 
							white gene and one normal gene)  
The first white tiger was Shine, 
							who was killed by hunters trying to steal her for a 
							canned tiger hunt.  
The second white tigress is Tibo 
							who is still alive & has produced three cubs that 
							have dispersed.  
Tibo is a very fine specimen & is 
							quite aggressive. She has killed a young female 
							called Aurora and recently she killed her sister Indira. (Her son Bird helped her kill both Indira & 
							Aurora)  
Our policy at Tiger Canyons is to 
							preserve the rarity of the White tiger & therefore, 
							we are concentrating on wild born, wild raised, 
							self-sustaining, normal tigers.  
“As 
							tigers aren’t native to Africa, unlike with lions, 
							you can’t simply exchange animals with another park” 
							  
A group of scientists at Wits 
							University believe the Tiger was in Africa & went 
							extinct. These scientists believe that in time with 
							fossil evidence, they will prove the Tiger 
							was in Africa.  
The Wits scientists hypotheses is 
							that the Tiger after being widely spread, crashed & 
							small population survived in Asia. It is from this 
							population that the modern tiger evolved. This would 
							explain why there are no Tigers on the island of Sri 
							Lanka. The land had split from the mainland by the 
							time the remnant population radiated outwards.  
This would also explain why 
							Tigers have such a narrow genetic base, because it 
							came from one remnant population. (Cheetah are also 
							very genetically narrow)  
“As that 
							is the case, why not get together with 
							conservationists and scientist to see if your tigers 
							can be used as a case study for artificial 
							insemination of wild tigers”  
Artificial 
							insemination has been tried before by others, with 
							disappointing results. It is expensive, difficult & 
							very invasive.  
Because of canned tiger hunting 
							in South Africa, (Lion canned hunting is legal; Tiger 
							canned hunting is illegal) there is a wide genetic 
							variety of Tigers in South Africa. Therefore, 
							natural mating and cub relocation as explained, is a 
							far better option.  
“Most 
							wild population of tigers are fragmented and 
							isolated meaning that to prevent inbreeding animals 
							have to be moved from park to park”  
India is a perfect example of 
							where the island scenario is emerging. Tigers have 
							recently gone extinct in Sariska & Panna & no cross 
							pollination of genes between parks like Rhanthambore, 
							Kanha & Bandhavgarh exists.   
Indian conservationists would do 
							well to examine cub relocation. A non-related cub 
							can be sourced & the Tigress can be darted & the 
							non- related cub introduced into the litters. I have 
							had success with both lion & tiger using cub 
							relocation.  
However, my fear is with India’s 
							huge human population (India is through 1.4 billion) 
							and it’s notorious bureaucracy, this kind of forward 
							creative thinking will never materialize in India.  
Several senior Indian government 
							officials and conservationists will be visiting 
							Tiger Canyons in the near future & I will certainly 
							be showing them how cub relocation works. However, 
							I’ m not holding my breath.  
“I do 
							think the work you are doing is important, but if 
							even one aspect of it isn’t putting the tigers 
							first, especially an aspect that could so negatively 
							affect them in the future, then it needs a serious 
							rethink”  
I don’t quite 
							understand this remark. Have you ever been to Tiger 
							Canyons? Have you ever sat down with me & discussed 
							my management policies?  
I have spent the last eighteen 
							years of my life living in a dilapidated house. 
							Every cent I have earned has gone into land, fencing 
							& prey for the tigers. I could quite easily stay at 
							Londolozi & live in luxury.   
My reward is a spiritual one. I 
							get to interact with this magnificent cat on a daily 
							basis. I get to see young cubs mature, disperse, 
							mate & have cubs of their own. I also have the 
							sorrow when one of the tigers dies.  
So let me ask you, apart from 
							sitting behind your computer, what have you done for 
							Tigers?  
Thank you for your Email, you 
							make some constructive points.  
Tread lightly on the EarthJV
 
   |  |